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Hugh Hewitt is continuing his series of interviews with declared and potential Presidential candidates on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Wednesday he hosted former Texas Governor Rick Perry. One of the subjects they covered was the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, and the Governor was honestly unkind.

Discussing all the Bubba Clinton paid speeches during his wife’s tenure at state, Perry said, “It’s getting so smelly, Hugh, that even Democrats are starting to say you know, this may not work out well for us in the end.” He continued with, “The fact is this is not a lapse of one’s memory. This is a lapse of one’s
ethics. And that’s the real issue here. There are real ethical questions
that have to be, must be answered by the Clintons from the Foundation
through the Secretary of State.”

A transcript and audio of the segment is below:

Hewitt: Now Governor, you’ve been on this program three or four times this year. Your opponent, if you’re the nominee, has taken about four questions total all year long. Is that acceptable in a public figure?

Perry: I think I’ve already answered more questions than she has in the last year in the public. No, it’s not, and listen, the Democrats are, I think, starting to get really nervous about Hillary Clinton. When you start looking at what she’s doing from the standpoint of this Clinton Foundation, there is a clear quid pro quo about speeches her husband has given. I mean, $30 million dollars in the last year and a half for speeches? I mean, that is a stunning number. Then when you look back at when she was Secretary of State, the places that Bill Clinton went to give speeches, I mean, I just think this thing is so, I mean, it’s getting so smelly, Hugh, that even Democrats are starting to say you know, this may not work out well for us in the end. Then when you add to it her just refusal, and this seeming, I mean, I am stunned that a person who would stand up in front of the American people and say listen, I want you to consider me to be the president of the United States, and not to answer questions, is totally an absolutely outside the realm of reality.

Hewitt: You know, you always bring up for a quick laugh your brain freeze on stage in 2012 when you forgot a non-essential detail. But Hillary appears to have forgotten that she used a lot of different emails on her private server. And her lawyer appears to have misled Congress and forgotten the False Statements Act. This is not a laughing matter, is it?

Perry: No, it’s not. And you know, the fact is this is not a lapse of one’s memory. This is a lapse of one’s ethics. And that’s the real issue here. There are real ethical questions that have to be, must be answered by the Clintons from the Foundation through the Secretary of State. And we haven’t even gotten into this entire Benghazi issue. And as we peel back the layers of the onion, if you will, this becomes more and more rotten.

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